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Article: 13516 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
From: Frank Slootweg <franks@neth.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: LIF utilities for (DOS) PC
Date: 12 Jul 2002 08:11:43 GMT
Organization: HP's Dutch Customer Response Center
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A week ago, I wrote:
> Frank da Cruz <fdc@columbia.edu> wrote:
[deleted]
>> The scientist in question has, besides the HP 9816, a DOS PC and a
>> Windows PC. He's not a computer guy, so most of the suggestions here won't
>> help much. Unless we can hand him an HP 9816 BASIC Kermit diskette that
>> is immediately usable, or a DOS/HP diskette interchange solution like this
>> one, we're tilting at windmills.
[deleted]
>
> Well, I think I have some good news!!!!!
>
> I re-checked some of the old pointers from old comp.sys.hp.* postings
> about LIF and came up with the following:
>
> Best
> ====
>
> I did a Google "I'm Feeling Lucky search on "LIFUTIL", which comes up
> with:
>
> http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/flowcyt/software/DATA/LIFUTIL/LIFUTIL.EXE
>
> This is the HP "LIF Utilities for the PC. Version A.00.01" product
> E2080A, which is (unsupported) freeware (since October 1994).
[deleted]
"The scientist in question" was going to report back to the group, but
since I have not seen his report, I might as well give it:
With our help, the (scientist) user has been able to use the above
mentioned LIFUTIL utility on his DOS PC to copy files from LIF/
the_HP9816 to DOS and vice versa, so his problem is solved!
Some more details/information:
==============================
The diskette drive on his HP9816 is an HP9121D or HP9121S and his LIF
diskettes were probably in "270KB" format (3.5", Double-Density,
(probably) *Single*-Sided). I have advised him to try with higher
capacities (i.e. Double-Sided, bigger sector sizes, High-Density), but
have not heard back about that part.
LIFUTIL is intended for DOS-based PCs, i.e. *real* DOS, not a 'DOS
box' in MS-Windows. However I have had some success using LIFUTIL in a
'DOS box' (i.e. "MSDOS Command Prompt" window) on MS-Windows NT (4.0
SP5). It is *very* slow on such a system - a directory access/list takes
some 30+ seconds, even if there is only one or two files on the LIF
diskette -, but directory list and copy LIF to DOS and vice versa, etc.
work. *Initializing* a LIF diskette on NT does not work because the low-
level format routines are not available in a 'DOS box', but that is
normally not a problem, because initializing can be done on the LIF
platform (i.e. in the user's case his HP9816+HP9121).
If anyone has any questions, comments, etc., then feel free to ask/
post.